Well I have found other examples of where a 1 post to two beams shoulder connection would be usefull - so to me this debate is not finished. I would still like it to be possible in a better way than today.
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Ok - I have seen now, that many or some webdomain providers in Denmark also provide a website program to design and write a website.
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This "silverbird" only sell space and a webaddress, as far as I can see. Do they also have integrated a program that you use to design your webpage or did you buy one seperately?
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If I delete pictures in my upload center - will they still be visible / available in the posts where the pictures are uploaded??
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10. More flexible when working with user defined templates in D-Cad. Maybe I am not doing it in correct way, but in the list of drawings the name of all drawings is just A3 template or something like that - I would like the name I define in Dietrichs program to follow into D-cad. And in some cases the scale factor is not a choice.
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Yesterday evening I tried first to delete some of the assisting geomtery, but not completely all. There was a change in speed, but after a while I realized that I needed more speed if I did not want to work all night to finish - so I put undo steps to zero - and THAT was a huge difference in speed - almost immediatly response on all my commands!!! I made 66 drawings with my own template, in about two hours - I was working really effective.
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So what you are really saying is that in the future I cannot do this kind of structure!????? :? Not even with the explode method??
I really wonder why Dietrich will go a step back in stead of going two steps forward! Am I the only person in the world who would like to make this kind of beams over doors and windows?? I think that solution is common?
I don't like that software limits my solutions and force me to do other solutions!!
Well what you are saying is that I have to think about other solutions for future projects ](*,) One way could be a box - see picture. Hmmm strange - I thought that anything would be possible with Dietrichs! :cry:
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The strange thing is that it worked in some walls and stayed ok, and in other walls it did not work and stayed not ok. So now I have done the explode thing in the walls where it was not ok.
A simple solution how to select both double beams would be to make it possible to select items in the section view at the right side of the wall!
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So they should program it, he, he...
The next question could be: Would it be possible to receive same result with another type of connection? I tried end lap joint, but I am not sure if it works.You see at this picture how beatiful it is...

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How should I explode it? Should I stand on the last shoulder and explode, or should I mark all shoulders and explode or should I explode shoulders one by one?
Dietrichs: This is really something that need a solution - if there are not other ways that works.
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Hmmm... now I see that it is random if the program remembers the double shoulders or not - many of the was ok. But now I am checking the walls once again - and at least in one case the shoulders on the one beam were gone.
Maybe I should do what you say - to avoid the problems coming back when I send the project for production.
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Hmmm... I think there is a problem - I did all these double beam shoulders yesterday, but today when I open the project they seem to be gone. I will return if this comes back.
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Ah yes that can be the real answer to why it is is going slowly. I have assisting DXF geometry on both ground floor and 1st floor. So I should just delete them - ah well I am not finished using them... So maybe I should just delete the parts of the geometry that I don't need more.
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What about designing a webpage - is it like graphical user interface like making dokuments in Word??
The next thing is that I should make the website in both Danish and English - double work. :roll:
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Zitat von Der_planner
@Dietrich's: Would it be possible to create both shoulders at once? And if not, would it at least be possible to manually connect a group of posts to a group of beams when they are one behind another as shown in the example?
Yes exactly - very interesting questions - to that I would like to hear an answer from Markus or other Dietrichs people!
I have also put that in the "wish list" another place in the forum. -
Then I cannot undo... But of course it is worth a try to put number of undo steps to 1 or even 0. But when I was working on ground floor there was no problems, but at 1st floor, significant difference.
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I have a quite "heavy" computer with a lot of power, I think. But at the project I am working now, the computer begins to slow down. The project is two storey + topfloor/roof and now I am working at 1.st floor and finished ground floor. When I choose a function like wall list, to put in post, to cut off timber etc., most of the times I have to wait a long time before the function is available. So half of the time I am working I am waiting.... The project is a big one, but no that big - about 300 m2 in ground floor and in 1st. floor, total 600 m2.
Below you see my computer:
Plus Lite Amitech PL model D865PERLK
BIOS version P19-0085.bio
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Processor 1 Intel Pentium 4 3.2GHz HT 800FSB
RAM 1 1GB MB DDR-RAM 400MHz (2*512MB)
RAM 1 1GB MB DDR-RAM 400MHz (2*512MB)
Floppydrev 1 Diskdrev 3.5 1.44MB (sort)
Harddisk 1 36GB 10K WD S-ATA harddisk
Harddisk 1 250GB 7200rpm harddisk
Harddisk 1 250GB 7200rpm harddisk
Grafikkort 1 ATI Radeon 9550 256MB RAM TV-out
Lyd 1 Integreret lydkort
Modem 1 CastleNet SL1900 modem
Netkort 1 Integreret netkort
DVD drev 1 16x DVD drev (sort)
DVD brænder 1 DVD Brænder (-/+R/RW) (sort)
Diverse hardware 1 FireWire kort
Diverse hardware 1 SmartCard reader og 5.25" ramme (sort)
TV/Video kort 1 TV 2000 XP TV/FM PVR kort
Tastatur 1 Amitech trådløs optisk mus/tast 5511 DK
Højttalere 1 Amitech Flad højtt. m/subw. model 200
Operativsys. 1 MS Windows XP Pro DK (CD 21)
Recovery 1 Genindlæsnings CD 21.14 - CD 1
Recovery 1 Genindlæsnings CD 21 - CD 2+3
Software 1 Amitech Bullguard 6 mdr. Antivirus/FW/BU
Software 1 Cyberlink PowerDVD 5.0 licens
Software 1 Sonic RecordNow! v6
Software 1 Amitech værktøjer og opsætning
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I have been using Dietrichs for only 1½ month. But already from the beginning I was very happy for the program - it is really a very nice program!! I like it very much!!
I have a few things for the wish list at this moment - maybe I forgot about some things I have been thinking about, but then I can add it later. Some of the wishes can have been mentioned earlier.
1. Saving pictures from OpenGL in the same way as you save a Word file - by opening the directories on the computer and giving the picture a meaningfull name.
2. In wall design - in stead of opening wall list to choose a wall - maybe in a area at the bottom or at the right side of the screen, all walls are shown in a list of sheets - like the worksheets in Excel, where you can choose a wall directly. And the ability to choose between to views - a simple list wall 1, wall 2 etc. and a list with a small preview. And of course still the preview of the building where you can see where is the wall.
3. Exporting wall design to drawings: It would be nice if it was possible to select all walls or a number of walls (for instance in the worksheet list as mentioned in (2) ) - and then export all wall designs to drawings with the same predefined settings. That is settings as scale, the position of the wall drawing at the sheet, the position of timberlist etc. Because making wall drawings now take some time and is a boring job if you have many, many walls.... And maybe even while exporting drawings a automatic headline text in the predefined page header like: "Groundfloor, wall 1" or "xxxxx, wall 1" where you self can define "xxxxx"
4. Intelligense betwwen the program (ground floor plans, wall design t.ex.) - when you make changes t.ex. in the wall design the changes are automatic updated in the drawing. And maybe adding an automatic text "this drawing was changed 18-09 2006, 10:37" so when you look through the drawings you can see where you should add revisions if necessary.
5. The possibilty to copy walls (with timbers) directly in ground plan. The function could be like wall macro that is a nice feature, just more automatic and working in ground plan.
6. In wall macro to get a warning when selecting a wall to copy - if the two walls are not exactly equal - and then you can choose to skip the function.
7. Automatic doing shoulders from posts in both beams in double beams (or maybe even trible beams).
8. A more flexible way to change projectnumber and name.
Well I can't remember more wishes for now. But I must say that this software is already VERY GOOD!!! :applause:
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So I guess it is not possible to select both double beams at one time?
And next time when I put in timbers in a wall from scratch, and put in posts - then it will automatically make the shoulders only in one of the beams, and then afterwards I should add shoulders to the other beam manually.