Beiträge von Thorvald

Hi.

I just saw that Dietrichs for some reason had made center of gravity points for all parts in the element. Normally I just want to have for the complete element. I normally just let Dietrichs calculate center of gravity for all walls and all layers - but then why later it suddenly shows up on all items in the element? How to get these to not show and only show the one, for the complete element??

Yes, there is a reason. They cast the concrete sandwich elements, with the outside plate down in the form and they want the wall element numbers to show to the inside of these elements. As far as I remember wall names are put on the drawings, on the view side.

It is not difficult of course to just move these names to the inside and to make wall drawings seen from back side. But the other would be a little more easier.

Hi.

I was making a new project, with concrete sandwich walls and I was wondering, what if one would want to have the view direction as the inside of the outside walls. But when I tried to change view direction, the outside plate became inside and vice verca. And I also tried all combinations (I think) of wall input directions and right-left / left/right input directions. But nothing seemed to give that the view direction would be inside.

I was thinking maybe, I would need to define my wall properties for such a project, so that I change the order of layers. I haven't tried this - do you think that is the only solution??

I think I figured out a work around. I made two position copies, in each deleting everything else, than the single deck element. Then in "ceiling design", I used the function "Extras/center of gravity" and made a ceiling drawing. From that ceiling drawing I could copy the COG to the right place on the production drawing.

Hi.

I have some special shaped concrete deck elements around the stair. I would like to write on the drawing the center of gravity, in order to place the lifting points in the best places.

In D-cam's object info, under "determine values", there are some values for center of gravity. I assume that all the values X, Y, Z are values that gives the center of gravity. But what I am not sure of, is where is 0,0???

Hi.

Does any one know of engineering static programs for calculation of concrete stairs - incl. spiral stairs??

Thank you very much. The job took a bit long time - but that is because I needed actually to do 3 things: A form that could be produced as a form to cast the stair, a "form" only to use in Dietrichs to cut the concrete stair with intersecting volumes - and the concrete stair it self. Each of these jobs required a bit different methods and that I was not aware of from the beginning. It required almost all my patience, but I am happy with the result.

Finally I got the result I wanted: A form to cast the stair in and the finished concrete stair. And what got me to the result? Well, I think two tips could be good to remember another time:
1) The things you make to cut the result, is good to make over dimensioned, ro they totally cover the volume that you cut into. So the only thing that is left is the result volume.
2) To set the precision value to a higher value than you expect. In this case 0,2 and 0,02, was precisions that did what I wanted.

Well, I have come quite much closer to the end. But I cannot get the steps cut out. I cannot understand why the underside of the stair cannot be cut-out into the concrete block. I can maybe understand the step side, because the should go through the concrete block. So I need to make them wider.

I have figured it out, kind of. More or less acc. do my idea above. Just the heights teased me a lot so it took quite some time to get to a result that I am very satisfied with. I.e. a "form" to "cast" the concrete in - and this model of the form, can actually with a few modifications be used to make a actual form for the stair.

Then I was thinking to put in a big block of concrete (panel) in the wall design and then in D-cam with intersecting volumes, with the spf as male and the concrete as female, cut the stair out of the concrete. I don't know why but it doesn't work as intended. The cutted concrete does not form the stair. I thought I would get two concrete parts - one that was the stair inside the form and one for the rest of the big concrete block outside the form. But no. I don't know if it is my version of Dietrichs that cannot do it or if I have done something wrong. But the shape of the lower side of the stair is (almost) perfect.

I have a slight idea how I may be able to to do it. Copy the first step down a certain distance - maybe the step height. Then copy that step polar - but with maybe 20 x more copies, or more, than I used to make the top steps. Then move each step, up like I did with the top steps, but this time 20 x less than the step height. Then I am not sure, but maybe it is possible to camfer the edge of the steps, so the surface seems smooth. Maybe it can be done before copying the steps polar, I am not sure.

Hi.

I am about make a free standing almost half circle concrete stair. At the moment I am making the form, needed to cut a concrete block, to shape the stair. At the same time this form in Dietrichs could be used to make the form in the real life. Steps and sides are not so difficult, but the lower side I cannot figure out. I think I am in the right direction - but I don't get it.

I was thinking this method: I copy the steps down and move them to form a flat surface. Then angle all of this in the angle of the stair. But this gives wrong result. Then I copied the steps so there are the same distance (not moving them on flat surface) and the angled each step this stair angle. But that looks wrong also.

How to calculate / measure how the steps should be copied and angled to form the underside of the stair?? What line should the be rotated around? Anybody knows? I have a feeling that it is not enough only to rotate them around a edge of the step or along the middle of the step, but on the other hand the stair should have the same thickness under all steps, so I don't understand why.

And that is because how Dietrichs is made (so in princip independent of syncronization software).

There could be another method:
We have a ftp-server. We could use GoodSync to make automatic upload and download of files, on file change level. This - I think - should make it possible to work in the same project at the same time - as long as we work on different positions and different drawings.

Does anybody here, use syncronization of Dietrichs work?

Hi Joachim.

This answer - is that related to syncronization software in general? I mean - in general - as long as we work with version 7, we should not use any syncronization software to syncronize our work - at least not if part of the purpose is to be able to work in the same project at the same time (but of course not the same position or the same drawing, at the same time).
In version 8 and newer it would be possible to work for example in the same directory like "2013" - but it would (still) not be possibe to work at the same project, under "2013", at the same time??
But does it not depend on the syncronization software / method, if it is possible or not? Or is it the Dietrichs software that limits the possibilities? Perhaps in order to limit the possibility of lost work? Some syncronization software syncronizes on file level. So if one has a syncronized folder with excel files and one person works at one excel file and another person works on another excel file - that works fine - also in Sugarsync. That's why I thought we could use Sugarsync, because if I work in one position of a project and my assistent work in another position in the same project - then we work in different files (or not?). Or if I work in .plf file number 10 and my assistent works in .plf file number 11 - these are two different files - so this should be possible? - Or not, because Dietrichs sets the limitation on directory (v.7) level or on project (v.8 ff) level?

Hi.

Let's see. I made a SugarSync account, sometime earlier this year - I don't remember exactly when, maybe near the end of last year. In general it works nice. Now we have tried to sync the folder of 2013 drawing project works - between me who are located in Denmark and my assistent(s) located in Lithuania. So - if I in my drawing program (Dietrichs) go to this synced folder and if my assistent in Lithuania is working on a project in this folder (directory) then I am asked to release the directory or not. If I press "ok", nothing happens and I cannot access the project or open the drawing program with that project.
So my question will be: Is it possible or not, with Sugarsync to work more than one person at the same time, within the same synced folder? It would not be the same project position or the same drawings that we open and work on.

Does anybody here use Sugarsync? Does anybody use syncronization of Dietrichs work folders among different workers - and how / what programs you use.

For local backup, I use GoodSync - and maybe GoodSync also has syncronization functions that could work between computers - but the main reason why I didn't choose GoodSync, is that it is not free.

Best regards, Thorvald.

Ok - I succeeded to import it with the text, but there are other things, that doesn't import, some circles and some hatches.

Maybe I'll have to import it as a image file and add my drawing on top of that. Not the best and most accurate - but maybe it have to be ok. I will see.

Hi.

Oh - ok. The reason why I first made a PDF, is because the model space in the original .dwg, is very strange. Strange in that way that if I use the command zoom - all, then the actual drawing almost vanish - I can barely see it as a dot. I tried to erase the big areas around it, in case there was a point or a line somewhere. But with no success. Therefore I went to the layout, made a PDF print and converted that PDF print to dxf - in order to get somewhere at least.

Ok - I can try to explode the text. I tried to explode all items on the drawing before. What do you mean with "explode the text multiple". Do you mean that I should do it not just once, but several times?

Perhaps not. But remember that I am still on version 7.3. So that .dwg import works in newer versions, is something I cannot use to anything....

Hi.

I got a .dwg file that I am supposed to use in a drawing. This .dwg was a bit strange because with "zoom all" in model space, the drawing was almost just a dot. I tried to erase big areas around it, in case there should be a point or small line somewhere. But with no success.

Then I printed the layout drawing to PDF, converted this to dxf, scaled it to 1:1 and saved it as .dxf. (Ark 1). I also tried to explode all and save it as another dxf (Ark 2). I also tried to save both variants as dxf 2000 variants.

The PDF and the dxf's are fine and contains the original text. But when I want to import these dxf into D-Cad 2D, then this text is not there.

I could perhaps write the text, but I am quite sure I am not allowed to change anything on the original drawing.

How to get everything with me to the Dietrichs drawing program? Or is it simply not possible?

It's ok - I got it to work quite fine, with the method of making the texture image file 512x256. I just don't understand the difference between textur, vollbild and volldbild_grau. But as long as my textures works, it's great for me. It can be that when / if we upgrade to version 10, 11 or where ever you are now, I'll have to change the texture files. But that thing to that time.